> At 05:34 PM 05/01/96 -0800, Twirlip of Greymist wrote:
> 
> >The biggest flaw I (as a materialist-reductionist-atomist blah blah)
> >of logic I acknowledge is that it bites creatively.  The descriptions I
> 
> Though I agree with this statement, I think it is important to realize
> that this doesn't mean that creativity isn't amenable to logical
> analysis, artists' objections notwithstanding. I believe this is
> what Douglas Hofstadter and his students have been working on the last
> few years; has anyone read his latest book?
I didn't know he had a new one out.  Do you know the title?
> By now, no-one will be surprised if I suggest that creativity is
> essentially an evolutionary process, i.e. an interaction between
> the variation and selection of new ideas. Logic certainly has a 
> large role in the latter process but it is less clear if it is
> needed for variation. I think it is obvious that the new variants
> are not logical deductions of existing ideas, but there are other
> algorithmic operators (inspired by biological genetics) that may be 
> used: point mutations, sequence reversals, and especially crossover.
Agreed.  I feel that logic/reason are too often viewed as antithetical to 
creativity/inspiration.  For me, they usually go hand-in-hand.  The 
composer/mathematician/architect Iannis Xenakis has written extensively 
about the application of scientific thought and processes to the creative 
arts (see _Formalized Music_) and I would quote him now if I hadn't left 
that particular book at home... ;-)
--Jay Thomas
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