> On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Lather. Rinse. Repeat. wrote:
> 
> > I am an "amoralist" because I do not believe in the existence of a purely 
> > objective standard of right and wrong.  However, I do live more-or-less 
> > according to a set of _subjectively determined_ guidelines which I call 
> > "a code of ethics".
> > 
> > As for atheism, I have a difficult time seeing how an atheist could 
> > believe in an objective standard of morality.
> 
> Why not?
> 
> If an atheist believes that there are laws that govern behaviour like 
> there are laws that govern physics then it becomes a matter of 
> discovering what those laws are.
I suppose that I make a distinction between "morality" and "laws 
governing behavior".  Even if there are laws governing behavior and even if 
those laws are subject to violation by human beings, then I would still 
have a difficult time calling such violation "morally wrong".  Unnatural, 
perhaps -- but I see no need to invoke "wrong".
If such laws exist and they are NOT subject to violation by human beings, 
then does a discussion of right and wrong still have meaning?  If it is 
not possible to commit a "wrong" action, then do "wrong" vs. "good" actions 
still exist? 
> Let me suggest that such a law is Natural selection. This occurs on many 
> levels. It occurs on the level of genetics and on the level of ethics.
> 
> Certain combinations are more likely to survive and propagate. Now if one 
> is able to discover why these combinations are able to do so then you are 
> uncovering "what is". Now "what ought to be" is not necessarily identical 
> to "what is" but recognizing your constraints gives you apoint of departure.
Agreed.
But I still see no need to involve "what ought to be" -- morality -- in
the discussion. 
I use the term "ethics" to describe my own guidelines for decision making
and personal behavior.  My code of ethics is simply that I try to
determine and pursue, in any situation that I feel will have a significant
effect upon me, what is in my self-interest. 
But I do not consider it "wrong" for me to act contrary to my self
interest, nor do I consider it "wrong" for anyone to act contrary their
particular self-interests.  Foolhardy, perhaps, but not "wrong".  To me, 
this would be the equivalent of saying that the dinosaurs were morally wrong 
for becoming extinct.
--Jay
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