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> On 18 Nov 96 at 19:41, zaimoni@ksu.edu wrote:
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> > I'm going to assume that the only thing an accurate IQ measurement 
> > measures is thinking speed, for the next statement:
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> I agree with this wholeheartedly in principle, but I once again 
> stress that I don't think we have yet developed the means of 
> accurate measurement.
The current state of the art seems to be like one mid-1980's 
voice-recognition of Japanese program [digitally based]: it had no 
problem with native speakers, but foreign speakers were hopeless.
> > The above is worthless without the domain restriction 'useful for daily 
> > life'.  If it isn't a job skill or something used frequently, it doesn't 
> > count.
> 
> I still disagree with this. The incentive to learn may affect the 
> application of intelligence but I don't think it affects intelligence 
> itself. I think this may be related to our inability to measure the 
> phenomenon. Perhaps we're using the term 'useful' in a slightly 
> different manner. Do you mean it in an absolute sense (i.e. useful 
> whether or not the subject thinks it is useful) or relatively (i.e. 
> the subject finds it useful)?
Absolutely, and [initially] relatively.  Of course, the subject's lack of 
progress may cause him to reclassify its usefulness, within seconds or 
minutes.
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