Yep.  Minature societies, leading to government.
> The more people who share a common goal, the bigger 
> that coalition will be and the more chance it has of success.
The more chance it has of becoming a society.
> The strong moral system you mention won't happen. 
> There will always be those who cause conflict,
That is exactly why I don't believe anarchy can ever exist for long
periods of time.  The ones who go against the rest of the people,
and make themselves a danger to others will cause society to 
form an alliance against him/them.  Again, once an alliance is formed,
government follows.
Let me back up what I'm saying here with a trivial example.  I have a
reasonably large group of friends, and when we all go out at the weekend,
there is somewhere in the region of 20 - 40 of us.  We are all individuals,
within out own little society.  We all do what we want - to a point.  There
is a stage that we have now reached, where the organisation of what 
we do is done by a few people (myself included) only.  Essentially, we 
dictate what the other do.  This is primarily due to the fact that
if we didn't arange things, we'd never ever do anything :)  But you
see how it's evolved....
> What I do know is that all the 
> systems we've tried so far have failed (IMO) 
Agreed.
> and this is one which 
> (again IMO) has a chance.
Sorry, disagree.
> As far as I'm concerned it's time to draw a 
> line under the whole democracy thing, say 'failed experiment' and 
> start again with something else. It'll never happen that way of 
> course, as the people who are in a position to do exactly that are 
> the people who gain the most by perpetuating the experiment we call 
> democracy.
I don't think democracy can be described as an experiment.  I think if
any society were left alone, isolated from humanity, then democracy
would always be the ultimate end of all political ideology.
> people caring 
> about each other is possibly the one thing that would make anarchy 
> fail, for *that* is where government comes from; a 'mother knows 
> best' attitude gone mad.
That's an interesting point.  I'd still disagree, though, 'cos
it would be unpreferable (to me, at least) to live in a society
where I am under constant threat.
Drakir
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