All memes are like viruses in that they spread by infection. Isn't that
the central tenet of memetics (heretics notwithstanding :)?
> >I think Richard Brodie reserves the term "mind virus" for the effects of
> >memes in the real world.
>
> That's his plot: to call all memes viruses. "Effects of memes in the real
> world" -- yes, memes effect the real world -- is this a reason to call them
> viruses?
Brodie explicitly differentiated memes from their effects, like genotypes
from phenotypes, calling only the latter "mind viruses".
> >Did he ever say "dinky little viruses"? If not, why are you quoting it?
>
> Richard would have said in this situation: "I never said anything about
> Richard Brodie, did I? Don't put words in my mouth, David."
I really don't think it was a big stretch to assume that your reference
to the Temple in Seattle was about Brodie. But if you say it wasn't I'll
take your word for it.
> >Lesson #11: Quote someone out of context in order to ridicule him:
> >
> >>registration fee). Fine cognac and cigars are also offered until the wee
> >>hours afterwards (the ad doesn't say if they are included in the price).
> >>Ah, life.
>
> David, what *was* the context of this free ad posted in CoV?
> *Just* a joke? What message was conveyed? You may, of course say, you
> don't know, "ask Richard". I hope you had some idea what the context was
> when you accused me of "quoting someone out of context".
What's this? You don't like being made an example in a manipulation lesson?
Imagine that!
Anyway, to answer your question, Richard's statement was not an ad for
his workshop. He was talking about meeting a fellow list member in person
and hanging out after the seminar. There was no implication that said
activities were part of the workshop.
-- David McFadzean david@lucifer.com Memetic Engineer http://www.lucifer.com/~david/ Church of Virus http://www.lucifer.com/virus/