>There is such a thing as the hypnotic trance,
I dissagree.
>the various
>prescribed methods of relaxation and suggestion do produce in many
>subjects a brain state that is measurably different from a normal waking
>or sleep state.
I agree but there are many such altered states. I have a
feeling we have different conceptualisations of "Hypnotic trance".
> I
>personally have hypnotized a friend of mine and suggested to her that two
>identical sensations would be different, and she perceived them as
>different; I don't think she woulda been convinced to do so without the
>hypnotic leadin. So I know about the suggestibility part firsthand.
How do you know she perceived them as different? because
she told you so? Perhaps she didnt want to dissapoint you by not
becoming a successfull hypnotic subject (can this be so, friends
lying to friends so as not to dissapoint them?).
Incidently I can illicit from people a "yes they were
different stimulii" response whether or not they believe in the
hypnotic trance, you just have to change the wording of the leadin
to suite.
>There's a comment to that effect in the movie _Bull Durham_. I recommend
>seeing it five times.
Noted. I will see it next available opportunity.
But my we have drifted from the more important
point of the validity of repression. Let me assert once more
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS REPRESSED MEMORIES, PLEASE CHECK
OUT THIS CLAIM AND TTHE TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW, LIVES ARE BEING
RUINED.
>
>> > Have you heard the following urban legends
>> Gang initiation, lights off.
>> Batman wardrobe
>> aeroplane toilet / fat man (yes, if his guts get sucked out)
Yes, this is that one.
>
>No (I snipped the ones I'd heard)
Gang initiation, lights off:
There's an initiation ritual for gang members which goes as
folllows; the new member has to drive around with their lights off
and then follow the first car to flash, and kill all the occupants.
Incidently I am reading Virus of the mind now and this one
is mentioned by richard. He says he doesnt know where it started
but I can definately say it was around in 1994 when the docu-drama
was made (maybe 95). If you want a copy Richard I will send you
one.
Batman/wardrobe.
Girl picks up man in bar. Back to hotel room for sex. Ties man face
down to bed for kinks. Out of wardrobe comes big guy dressed as
batman who then buggers man.
Here's another I just heard yesterday (the person who told
me it said it was the first he ever heard about twenty years ago so
you may have heard it or it may have been dormant.
Man picks up woman hitchiking but remembers hearing
warnings about axe murderer on news so when she is sat in seat next
to him he asks her to check rear lights before they move. He drives
away when she is out of car. Later he realises she left bag in car,
looks inside and finds an axe.
>
> Actually, I'm
>not much interested in such an effort unless I think it would be a really
>good story to have people spreading.
I agree. If the story's spreading would have some virtue
then I think it would be a worthwhile effort. What about this one.
The latest trend among the mega-rich (who are bored and fed
up with transparent sycophants) Is to go hitch-hiking, dressed as
an ordinary pleb and give a massive cash donation to any genuinely
altruistic drivers who stop and pick them up. (or a variation would
be begging ang giving cash to altruists.)
Im not sure which button this would be pressing (Richard's
terminology) would it be the "window of opportunity" (low risk,
high reward) or the FEAR OF PASSING BY A CHANCE OF RECEIVING A
LARGE CASH DONATION.
Tony Hindle.
Who is now a pancreatic rationalist.