Re: virus: Religion, Zen, post-structuralism, and the failureof logic

David McFadzean (morpheus@lucifer.com)
Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:58:44 -0600


> From: Eric Boyd <6ceb3@qlink.queensu.ca>
> Date: Wednesday, June 12, 1996 11:44 PM
>
> Actually, I don't think such a game would last very long. The non rule
> bound person would win as soon as s/he chose to. "Check mate" This of

Claiming a win by just saying "Checkmate" is sort of pointless, don't
you think?

> course gets back to the fundamental critisim of Post-Structuralism and
> level 3. Why play by /any/ rules?

Because that's the only way to have fun.

> > If you want to use some other worldview for anything at all, be my guest.
> > If you find faith useful, that's fine with me too. If you're insulted because
> > I find faith fundamentally flawed and express those opinions (without attacking
> > anyone, BTW), then maybe you should ask yourself why you are so defensive.
>
> nasty nasty! Looks like an attack to me! But seriously, I think at
> about this point we should invoke the "Reed Principle" and step back...

I think you should ask yourself why that looks like an attack to you.

> What is the point of this argument? If you already accept that reason
> is "just" a world view, as you say, then the point has already been
The point of an argument is to learn. That is how both sides can win.
If you think I am just now realizing that logic is "just" a worldview,
then I suggest you go back and read what I wrote.

> won. The only struggle now lies in "faith", which you still reject.
> Tell me, if you do think that reason is not the be all and end all, what
> other world view /would/ you accept as valid?

Any worldview that is as good or better than reason. (I don't know
of any but that doesn't mean they don't or can't exist.)

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