> > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:12:55 -0400
> > From: Sodom <sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
> > Organization: Hedonism Unlimited
> > To: virus@lucifer.com
> > Subject: Re: virus: Free thought and control
> > Reply-to: virus@lucifer.com
>
> > chardin wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marie,
> > > > Some of the differences are still beyond explanation, but
> > > > most
> > > > aren't. The fat, nose, hands, folicle direction and a few others
>
> > > > are
> > >
> > > > evolutionary swimmimg adaptations. No other ape can swim, these
> > > > are water adaptations. Another way is called RNA regression
> > > > analysis. By testing RNA, which is passed down female lines, we
> > > > can tell species divergence times, and thus discover where
> > > > mankind diverged from the apes. Using these techniques and
> > > > others, there is no scientific doubt that man is an ape.
> > >
> > > Can I get a pretty good reference on that last statement? Chardin
>
> > >
> >
> > Chardin,
> > I'll look for the refrence, besides reading it, I also saw it
> > on
> > the Discovery Channel's "Miracle Planet".
> >
> > While my computer chugs:
> >
> > 1. Nose is downward to prevent water getting in
> and dust particles? and wind? Maybe we were once birds and this
> design helped us to manuever wind currents easily.
>
> > 2. Hair folicles all point down to reduce resistence
> I don't know what to say about this assertion. It is just too
> strange.
>
> > 3. Fat content to improve boyancy
> I was under the impression that this was to improve body heat.
>
> > 4. Wide hands as improved "paddles"
> When did we develop the opposable thumb? After we left the water and
> didn't need our webs anymore?
>
> I can't remember who made the analogy but I think it was a good one.
> To believe in "evolution", i.e. the gradual change of the species to
> a higher life form or the jump from one species to another, one might
> as well believe that
> a typewriter factor exploded and produced a dictionary.
>
> If you would like to read something from the other point of view,
> read this: http://spider.lloyd.com/~tstout/cs/pog_4.shtml
> Chardin
> >
> > Here is a good page for RNA and DNA stuff:
> > http://earth.ics.uci.edu/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html
> >
> > When I find the written adaptations to swimming, I'll pass that
> > along too.
> >
> > Sodom
> > Keeper of the cheeze
> >
We havn't left the water, we are the only great ape that swims. The hair
of our cousins make it VERY difficult. In fact, there are still
societies that spend a great deal of time in the water. These people can
catch fish with their mouths, and their entire subsistence comes from
the ocean. I could hardly believe this when I saw it, it was so cool to
see a little kid pop out of the water with a fish wiggling in his mouth.
The fat may also be for warmth, it would make sense and serve a dual
purpose.
A beak, and a nose are differnt things entirely, second, birds have very
different skeletal structure than humans. The human line, which in this
case is the mammal line, started with Dimetredon about 340 million years
ago. From the Dimetredon came the first mammals. We also recently
discovered a major missing link between the birds and the dinosaurs.
About a month ago, the discovery that dinos had a wishbone has given the
dinos - birds connection a great deal of credibility.
A guess about the opposable thumb is that it came before the water
adaptations. Humans left the forest for the woodlands about 4 million
years ago. It was there that the thumbs started to rotate as those apes
with superior tool capabilities thrived. Apes today also have tool using
capabilities. Chimps can even make stone tools.
i hope i answered these questions for you. i can get more data as this
is an area of interest for me and I am constantly making new
discoveries.
Sodom