virus: remove
Chuck (satan_death@rocketmail.com)
Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:33:42 -0800 (PST)
---virus-digest <owner-virus-digest@lucifer.com> wrote:
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> virus-digest Wednesday, December 3 1997 Volume 02 :
Number 320
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> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 08:23:30 -0800
> From: Marie Foster <mfos@ieway.com>
> Subject: Re: virus: Saints
>
> Sodom wrote:
> >
> > Paul Prestopnik wrote:
> >
> > > > Sodom Wrote:
> > > > Hey, I think Bertrand Russle should be one of our saints.
> >
> > > the only writings of Russel I have read was a chapter entitled
"the
> > > problem
> > > with evil" or something close. But it was pretty good, he
seemed to
> > > have a
> > > clear way of expressing ideas, and a rational viewpoint.
> > > I guess my question is what does it take to be cannonized??
> > > Last I checked our only saint was Darwin, that seems a pretty
obvious
> > > choice, but beyond that some criteria would be helpful. Does the
> > > saint-to-be have to be dead? Work done in meme's, or just
something
> > > related, or maybe a foot ladder for memes?
> >
> > It seems to me that to be considered a Virian Saint, all you
> > mentioned is good.
> >
> > 1. They should be dead, but I'm not opposed to living Saints other
than
> > they may become psycho's after we select them.
> > 2. They should have spent a lot of time examining and publishing
works
> > related to mems, or thought processes.
> > 3. They should be Atheists or Agnostics
> > 4. They should be male (Just kidding, put that there for valerian
- I
> > like to push butons!)
> > 5. They should have overwhelming CoV support
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Sodom
>
> Bill... there are lots of good theists out there that diserve
> consideration....!
>
> Marie
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 08:30:23 -0800
> From: Marie Foster <mfos@ieway.com>
> Subject: Re: virus: Synthesis web site/list
>
> Robin Faichney wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to those who expressed interest, and to David who's
> > been trying to help, but I've decided this is going to have
> > to go on hold for now. I simply don't have the time at the
> > moment. But I should be able to put something together
> > over the holidays, and also will probably have much more
> > time after early February, so watch this space!
> >
> > Robin
>
> Ah... the time crunch... How well I know it. My web page suffers
from
> me never having the time to learn what I need to further develop it.
>
> The one thing good is my Grandfather's diary. I transcribed it and it
> is a faithful replication of the content.
>
> This is my most valuable possession. There are links to it from
several
> history sites. And I get lots of good comments about it. If anyone
> wants to know what growing up was like after the civil war in this
> country. This is one true story.
>
>
> Marie
>
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> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:16:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chuck <satan_death@rocketmail.com>
> Subject: virus: remove
>
> - ---virus-digest <owner-virus-digest@lucifer.com> wrote:
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> > virus-digest Tuesday, December 2 1997 Volume 02 :
> Number 319
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> > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:35:35 -0500
> > From: "Paul Prestopnik" <pjp66259@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
> > Subject: Re: virus:santaclause & the easter bunny
> >
> > > A less strained example is how parents treat their children.
> Presumably
> > > parents don't believe the fairy tales, stories of Santa Claus etc.
> that
> > > they tell their kids, but I think their hyprocisy (if that's what
> is), is
> > > often justifiable. Fairy tales, for example, often teach valuable
> > lessons
> > > about the real world.
> >
> > speaking of santa.. I don't know if you have kids, but if you did
> what
> > would you tell your kids. (I'm speaking mainly to David, because
I'm
> > interested in how this fits with his rational thought system) is
> this a
> > hypocrisy? I don't have kids yet, but I've often wondered what to
> tell
> > them. I can't remember if my parents told me the truth, but it
> seems like
> > I've always known. Is it a white lie, to make them happier, or is
it
> > merely a prank?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:39:30 -0500
> > From: "Paul Prestopnik" <pjp66259@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
> > Subject: Re: virus: _____ of Virus
> >
> > > >One of the purposes of the CoV experiment is to falsify the
> hypothesis
> > that
> > > >it is necessary to use dishonest methods to propagate a
religion. I
> > concede
> > > >that the spread of Virus is going slower than initial estimations
> but
> > I'm
> > > >not ready to give up yet. :)
> > >
> > > The slow growth might be due to a lack of proselytizers. Perhaps
CoV
> > should
> > > hire a marketer ;->
> > >
> > This is an example of how the e-mail "chain letter" idea could help.
> If
> > the email is about memes and meta memes, then by definition it will
> spread
> > the holy writ of the CoV, plus if we include some sort of feedback,
> it will
> > allow study of how a meme actually travels. I would be interested
in
> > implementing this idea if others would be willing to help (feedback,
> and
> > distribution). What does everyone think?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 09:19:12 -0700
> > From: David McFadzean <david@kumo.com>
> > Subject: Re: virus:santaclause & the easter bunny
> >
> > At 10:35 AM 12/1/97 -0500, Paul Prestopnik wrote:
> >
> > >speaking of santa.. I don't know if you have kids, but if you did
> what
> > >would you tell your kids. (I'm speaking mainly to David, because
I'm
> > >interested in how this fits with his rational thought system) is
> this a
> > >hypocrisy?
> >
> > Interesting example. I remember discussing this with Sean Morgan in
> reference
> > to his young daughter a couple years ago. He thought (and I agree)
> that the
> > Santa Claus myth provides a very valuable lesson. Eventually the kid
> will find
> > out that Santa Claus doesn't exist, and indeed *could not* exist
> given his
> > purported powers. Hopefully the realization will come that adults'
> beliefs
> > (or espoused beliefs) are not necessarily true, so maybe similar
> myths
> > involving magical characters withholding gifts contingent on
> displaying
> > regulated behavior will be examined more critically.
> >
> > So is hypocrisy justified in limited cases? I'm still not sure.
> Maybe when
> > you're dealing with people that should be treated like children.
> >
> > - --
> > David McFadzean david@kumo.com
> > Memetic Engineer http://www.kumo.com/~david/
> > Kumo Software Corp. http://www.kumo.com
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 09:14:57 PST
>
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